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Monster Tourney Qualifier Group 1

 
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Which monster is best?
Kobold
47%
 47%  [ 9 ]
Goblin
26%
 26%  [ 5 ]
Ghast
15%
 15%  [ 3 ]
Yeti
10%
 10%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 19

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Brasky
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Monster Tourney Qualifier Group 1 Reply with quote

This is the Qualifying Group #1. You are voting for the "best" monster in this group-- you decide what "best" means. This poll will stay open for 48 hours (note that this is different from the original proposal). The top vote-getter will move on to the 16-monster, single elimination tournament. Click here for the official rules post.

Remember: Posting from puppet accounts is prohibited. People who vote using puppet accounts will not have their votes counted (from any account).

Advocating your favorite monster in this thread is encouraged. Feel free to berate the ones you don't want, and tout the ones you do.

There can be only one.

The candidates in this group are:

Kobold
Goblin
Ghast
Yeti


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is tough for me because Kobold and Goblin were two of my top choices as classic, versatile monsters and I think they both deserve to move on to the tourney. The ghast is also my favorite undead. This is a skunking hard decision.

Except for the Yeti. Yeti's suck. Bigfoot does not deserve a spot in the tourney.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kobolds (or in the Jones households, kuh-bolds), hands down.

As a random, unleveled monster, they're everyone's whupping boy. When they're prepared or when in their warrens...watch out. No player likes to admit they got trounced by kobolds, but their ability to use traps and ambushes is rather scary.

Want to scare the tar out of the PC's? Give 'em levels...no one expects it. I threw a few kobold monks against the PC's and even gave them hints (wearing robes....running faser than normal), but they missed it...up until the first one managed to get a Stunning Fist off against the cleric. PC Panic ensued.

We got ambushed by kobolds...two of 'em climbed up on the wagon next to the mage and he laughed them off (and shot a spell at somthing else) until they raged and charged. oops...they had a few levels of barbarian.

Yeti? I'll make soft, furry boots out of it. Ghast? Bring a cleric. Goblin? Nature's cannon fodder. Kobolds are the true terrors of this round.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm throwing my vote to the kobold. There are few other monsters that effectively scale along with the players the way that kobolds can. Sure, you can have a great time scything through droves of them around 5th, but then your 15th level and that kobold sorcerer just fried your Rogue and went invisible for the third time this encounter.

That, and I got to kill a Planetar with a Kobold sorcerer - I can't think of many cooler things than that.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kobolds can eat your babies. How cool is that?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FlameBlade wrote:
Kobolds can eat your babies. How cool is that?


I can see no better reason to vote Kobold - except for the name of my kobold sorcerer of pure evil "Spleefy McBlunt".
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta go with the ghast. Kobolds and goblins have just never been used effectively against or by me...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silverwolf wrote:
Gotta go with the ghast. Kobolds and goblins have just never been used effectively against or by me...


Don't make Spleefy mad. Spleefy will use telekinesis on you.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thatcash wrote:
Want to scare the tar out of the PC's? Give 'em levels...no one expects it.


Twenty years ago, no one expected. Now, it's becoming almost an overdone meme. I've been doing things with kobolds since that Dragon article came out (late 80s?) about humanoid characters. I think it was called "Hey, wanna play a kobold?" I bet the majority of dungeons published in the last 10 years that have kobolds have some that are seriously bumped up. It's as common as the many ninja/one ninja rule.

But my thoughts are generally the same as Brasky's. Kobolds and goblins are the most versatile little buggers. Ghasts are ok too. In the end, I gotta go with kobold but it sucks to have goblins go out so early.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose because it's a D&D monster tourney, yeti are probably a bit disadvantaged. But sasquatch were kind of cool in shadowrun...kind of.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took the UFC approach. If a kobold, goblin, ghast, and a yeti where in a cage match who would win? I put my money and vote on the ghast.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zircher wrote:
I took the UFC approach. If a kobold, goblin, ghast, and a yeti where in a cage match who would win? I put my money and vote on the ghast.
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That's one way to think of it. But goblins and kobolds are more variable in ability that the other two so it depends which specimen winds up in the match. The odds are that the little guys would lose but a 10th level cleric who can command undead would do well.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that's just the thing about this--there are many ways you can decide to cast your vote. You just have to pick the "best." For some people, that's going to mean the strongest. For others, it's the coolest, or simply their favorite for whatever reason. Kobolds and goblins seem to be getting the love for the usefulness and flexibility from a gameplay perspective. All of these are valid reasons to vote.

For me, my choice was as a DM--which of these creatures do I most like pitting against my players.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only one of the contestants on this list has a common-usage word based on it: Ghast! That makes it the winner in my book. Any other choice would be a ghastly mistake!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BREE-YARK!

I have to go with goblin. Versatile. They're numerous, so you can always sic more on players. They're stupid, so you can play up a humorous aspect as done in Pathfinder (or as the Magic multiverse). However, they're creepy enough that you can play them as scary bugaboos, like Ravenloft or a creepy Celtic campaign.


Ghasts come in a very close second.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DMDarcs wrote:

I have to go with goblin. Versatile. They're numerous, so you can always sic more on players. They're stupid, so you can play up a humorous aspect as done in Pathfinder (or as the Magic multiverse). However, they're creepy enough that you can play them as scary bugaboos, like Ravenloft or a creepy Celtic campaign.


I voted for kobolds as I've always liked them. But I don't disagree with anything you wrote.

With both kobolds and goblins, you can throw large numbers into the fray so they can use group tactics and mob the players but they're weak enough that the players still have a decent chance. The little guys can also use small spaces and low ceilings to their advantage.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KOBOLD WINS!

This thread is locked and we will see Kobold in the tourney!
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